In this episode Dr. Jenkins welcomes Robin Phillips and Joshua Pauling, discussing Robin's new book, Rediscovering the Goodness of Creation: A manual for recovering Gnostics (https://store.ancientfaith.com/rediscovering-the-goodness-of-creation-a-manual-for-recovering-gnostics/). Robin and Joshua are working on a book treating technology and the Faith, out later this year from Basilian Media & Publishing. The conversation roams across the modern map of unreality, from theological liberalism to the virtual world."